Life After Ministry

PODCAST

TURNING TRANSITION INTO TRANSFORMATION

RECLAIM YOUR
IDENTITY

REDEFINE YOUR
ASSIGNMENT

REDISCOVER YOUR
CALLING

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Episode 42: What’s Your Story? (featuring Wes Gay)

Imagine being just weeks away from your wedding and finding out through a third party that you've been fired from your church. This is exactly what happened to Wes Gay.

In this episode of Life After Ministry, host Matt Davis and guest Wes Gay dive into the difficult transitions from church ministry to marketplace success.

Together, they explore what it means to be forced out of a role you thought defined you, and how to build a thriving career outside the church while using the same skills honed in ministry.

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Episode 41: What Happens After The Last Service? (featuring Matt McGee)

Imagine standing at the pulpit after your last sermon, knowing it's not just the end of a service, but the end of your ministry journey at that church. What happens next?

In this episode of Life After Ministry, Matt Davis sits down with Matt McGee, founder of The Last Service Podcast, to explore the difficult transitions pastors face when they step away from ministry. Whether it's through burnout, church closure, or simply moving into a new season, Matt McGee has seen firsthand the emotional toll and the challenges that follow.

This episode tackles the question, "Is there life after ministry?" with a powerful reminder that ministry doesn’t end with a job title.

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Episode 40: Inside The Ministry Job Market (featuring Jordan Whilden)

What happens when you step away from the calling you’ve always known and venture into the unknown?

Jordan Whilden found himself at that crossroads, leaving behind nearly a decade of church ministry for an uncertain future in the marketplace.

But this episode of Life After Ministry is not just about leaving; it’s about rediscovering purpose, redefining ministry, and understanding that God's calling often transcends job titles.

Jordan's journey from pastor to CEO of Ministry Hub reveals how stepping away from a church role doesn’t mean stepping away from serving the Kingdom.

In this episode, Matt Davis talks with Jordan about the anxiety that comes with such a leap, the lessons learned, and how God continued to use his gifts in new, impactful ways.

For anyone wrestling with the question, "Is there life after ministry?" - Jordan’s story offers hope, clarity, and insight.

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Episode 39: When The Bottom Falls Out (featuring Jeremy Stalnecker)

Imagine coming home from leading Marines on the battlefield in Iraq, only to feel lost and frustrated while trying to get church volunteers to clean a bathroom.

The intensity and mission-driven focus of war collide with the quieter challenges of ministry life in ways that can lead to emotional turmoil.

In this episode of Life After Ministry, Matt Davis sits down with Jeremy Stalnecker, a former Marine officer turned pastor, to discuss how transitioning out of the military and into ministry nearly destroyed him.

Jeremy shares how misaligned expectations, hidden trauma, and identity loss can derail even the most driven leaders - and how a balance of grace, truth, and time helped him navigate those life-altering transitions. Together, they explore how to rediscover purpose, even when life feels like it's falling apart.

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Episode 38: Prioritizing Mental and Emotional Well-being in Ministry (featuring John Opalewski)

Imagine achieving what seems like ministry success on the outside - leading a growing church, serving a vibrant congregation - while internally battling crippling anxiety, sleepless nights, and the haunting thought of leaving it all behind.

In this episode of Life After Ministry, Matt Davis sits down with John Opalewski of Converge Coaching to explore how ministry leaders can hit their breaking point despite outward success.

John shares his personal journey of going from thriving youth pastor to suicidal depression as a senior pastor, and the hard-won lessons about self-care, boundaries, and the crucial role of mental health in ministry. Together, they tackle the question: how can pastors prevent burnout and find lasting fulfillment in both ministry and life?

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Episode 37: There Is No “Everything Pastor” (featuring David Robinson)

What if you dedicated decades of your life to ministry only to discover the role you've been striving to fulfill doesn't align with your true calling?

In this episode of Life After Ministry, Matt sits down with David Robinson, a seasoned pastor who faced the painful realization that his gifting was not what people had expected of him.

This episode dives deep into what it takes to build effective ministry teams and how to lead a church while avoiding common pitfalls.

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Episode 36: Is There Life After Divorce? (featuring Kathey Batey)

Imagine walking into your church with a heart heavy from a broken marriage, unsure how your faith community will respond. The weight of shame, guilt, and fear can feel unbearable.

This episode of Life After Ministry dives into the often unspoken struggles of divorce, especially for those in ministry.

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Episode 35: Flourishing In Ministry (featuring Chris Adams)

In this episode of Life After Ministry, Chris Adams, Executive Director of Flourishing in Ministry, discusses the rising burnout among pastors, offering insights on self-care, emotional resilience, and daily wellness practices. Learn how pastors can prevent burnout, redefine success, and thrive personally, even when their ministry is facing challenges. Explore practical strategies for flourishing in ministry.

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Episode 34: The Disciple Dilemma (featuring Dennis Allen)

In Episode 34 of Life After Ministry, Dennis Allen, author of The Disciple Dilemma, shares his journey from a military and corporate background to addressing one of the most significant crises in the church today: the failure of discipleship. Dennis discusses how the church has shifted from making disciples to prioritizing institutional success, leading to widespread disengagement, de-churching, and a broken model of ministry. Drawing on his leadership experience, Dennis explains how churches can refocus on their true mission—making disciples who make disciples.

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Episode 33: This Dream Is Not For You (featuring Wade Joye)

What do you do when God asks you to let go of the dream you’ve built your life around? Wade Joye, former worship leader at Elevation Church, shares his personal story of facing that very question. In this episode of Life After Ministry, Wade opens up about the moment Pastor Steven Furtick asked him to consider if he was willing to release what he was good at to embrace what God was calling him to be great at. Wade wrestled with letting go of his role as a worship leader—a dream he thought would last a lifetime—but in surrendering it, he discovered a deeper purpose.

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Episode 32: The Measure of a Ministry (featuring Gene Getz) Part 2

Pastor Gene Getz shares his powerful story of transitioning out of ministry and passing the baton to the next generation. In this episode of Life After Ministry, we explore the keys to successful pastoral succession, the importance of humility in leadership, and how to ensure a thriving ministry continues beyond your tenure.

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Episode 31: The Measure of a Ministry (featuring Gene Getz) Part 1

Pastor Gene Getz shares his powerful story of transitioning out of ministry and passing the baton to the next generation. In this episode of Life After Ministry, we explore the keys to successful pastoral succession, the importance of humility in leadership, and how to ensure a thriving ministry continues beyond your tenure.

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Episode 30: 8 Things Ministry Leaders Need In Their Transition

In this episode, Matt and Marilee Davis discuss eight things that ministry leaders need in their transition out of ministry. These include consistent community support, affirmation of personal integrity and worth, financial guidance and support, spousal and family support, professional development and coaching opportunities, legal and administrative support, access to solid Christian therapy, and spiritual direction and guidance. They emphasize the importance of these resources in navigating the challenges and growth opportunities that come with transitioning out of ministry.

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Facing Life After Ministry can feel hopeless, but it doesn’t have to be.

Whether you've stepped away from the pulpit by choice, or circumstances have forced a change, it's a monumental shift that leaves many wondering, "What's next?" If you're at this crossroads, you may feel alone, overwhelmed, and unsure about the road ahead.

We want you to know that you're not alone in this transition. There's not just life after ministry - there's a chance to thrive.

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Listen to an episode and help us spread the word by leaving a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts.

“Just listened to Matt and Marilee unpacked their own story in episode one. So generous, honest, and invitational. Thanks for meeting a "gap" in the ministry world, and by that I mean the shattered heads and hearts wandering the land like Christendom's own take on the Walking Dead. I pray this resurrects many, opens eyes for their families and communities, causing an increase in empathy among God's people.”
- Scott White

David, Former Pastor

"I felt lost after leaving the ministry. This podcast showed me a way forward."

Sarah, Ex-Missionary

"Life After Ministry Podcast was a lifeline during my transition. Now, I'm thriving in my new chapter!"

The Struggles of Transitioning

Stepping away from pastoral service can be a lonely journey filled with uncertainties. What will your new identity be? How do you make sense of the changes? The stakes are high - but you don't have to navigate this alone.

Do you have a story to share?

We are always looking for stories of hope and transformation, to see the good God has done, and to continue to build the church into the radiant bride she will ultimately become. To be a guest of the Life After Ministry Podcast, click below and fill out the form.

If you prefer to talk, contact Matt via email at matt@pastoraltransitions.com.